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		<title>A couple I learnt the hard way&#8230;</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[I recall one of my largest ever sales with mixed emotions. The deal for a mixture of hardware, software and design services was a whopper and had been in the pipeline for months. Likewise it had been in my forecast for months and all eyes were on me. I went in on my own for [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div id="_mcePaste" style="position: absolute; left: -10000px; top: 330px; width: 1px; height: 1px; overflow-x: hidden; overflow-y: hidden;">I recall one of my largest ever sales with mixed emotions. The deal for a mixture of hardware, software and design services was a whopper and had been in the pipeline for months. Likewise it had been in my forecast for months and all eyes were on me. I went in on my own for the final session to actually get the order and knew there would be some negotiating to be done. However, we were in a very strong position technically and I suspected that, as far as the engineers were concerned, it was a one-horse race.</div>
<div id="_mcePaste" style="position: absolute; left: -10000px; top: 330px; width: 1px; height: 1px; overflow-x: hidden; overflow-y: hidden;">For a one-horse race I sure got beat up. I was in my mid-twenties and meeting up with Reg, their procurement VP, who must have been around sixty and knew every low-down trick in the book. What I had expected would be a final, quick haggle on price turned into a mammoth session going over the price, technology, deliverables and Ts &amp; Cs with a fine-tooth comb. By the time I left I&#8217;d given away half of the farm, my head was spinning and I still wasn&#8217;t sure if I&#8217;d got the order. It wasn&#8217;t so much a negotiation as a very long, painful series of concessions.</div>
<div id="_mcePaste" style="position: absolute; left: -10000px; top: 330px; width: 1px; height: 1px; overflow-x: hidden; overflow-y: hidden;">I remember two of his tactics particularly vividly&#8230;</div>
<div id="_mcePaste" style="position: absolute; left: -10000px; top: 330px; width: 1px; height: 1px; overflow-x: hidden; overflow-y: hidden;">1. The salami technique. He took me through our Ts and Cs line by line with him questioning each one, telling me why they couldn&#8217;t accept it and asking me what we could do about it. So during the course of the meeting I made more than one call back to base to find out if we could move&#8230; and mostly we could.</div>
<div id="_mcePaste" style="position: absolute; left: -10000px; top: 330px; width: 1px; height: 1px; overflow-x: hidden; overflow-y: hidden;">2. The power of legitimacy. I&#8217;m sure you&#8217;ve probably heard about this concept&#8230; it&#8217;s the un-thinking respect for standard terms and conditions, operating procedures and in general anything documented. Reg used this to full effect with his terms; they were written in stone&#8230; absolutely couldn&#8217;t be changed&#8230; never in the history of the company had they been modified&#8230; he&#8217;d be fired for even thinking about it. Of course, when it came to our Ts &amp; Cs he had zero (0) respect for them and expected each one to be individually re-drafted for him!</div>
<div id="_mcePaste" style="position: absolute; left: -10000px; top: 330px; width: 1px; height: 1px; overflow-x: hidden; overflow-y: hidden;">So what did I learn from this exercise?</div>
<div id="_mcePaste" style="position: absolute; left: -10000px; top: 330px; width: 1px; height: 1px; overflow-x: hidden; overflow-y: hidden;">Firstly, don&#8217;t let them get you &#8220;on a roll&#8221; with the salami technique. If you do have to go over a lot of items just ask what they want on each one to begin with, don&#8217;t comment on any of them and move to the next. Make absolutely sure you have the complete, full list of requests before you comment. Then at least you are in a position to trade e.g. &#8220;I can do something on warranty if you can&#8230;&#8221; I actually wised-up to this half way through the negotiation with Reg, but by that point I was &#8220;on a roll&#8221;.</div>
<div id="_mcePaste" style="position: absolute; left: -10000px; top: 330px; width: 1px; height: 1px; overflow-x: hidden; overflow-y: hidden;">Secondly, when someone wants concessions from you make sure that you have the power of legitamacy on your side.</div>
<div id="_mcePaste" style="position: absolute; left: -10000px; top: 330px; width: 1px; height: 1px; overflow-x: hidden; overflow-y: hidden;">&#8220;The (written) quotation is fixed and firm&#8221;.</div>
<div id="_mcePaste" style="position: absolute; left: -10000px; top: 330px; width: 1px; height: 1px; overflow-x: hidden; overflow-y: hidden;">&#8220;Our system doesn&#8217;t allow that&#8221;.</div>
<div id="_mcePaste" style="position: absolute; left: -10000px; top: 330px; width: 1px; height: 1px; overflow-x: hidden; overflow-y: hidden;">&#8220;We put a lot of work into it to make sure it&#8217;s the absolute best deal&#8221;.</div>
<div id="_mcePaste" style="position: absolute; left: -10000px; top: 330px; width: 1px; height: 1px; overflow-x: hidden; overflow-y: hidden;">&#8220;Maintanenance is not negotiable&#8221;. (When I sold software I can&#8217;t recall any customer questioning this!)</div>
<div id="_mcePaste" style="position: absolute; left: -10000px; top: 330px; width: 1px; height: 1px; overflow-x: hidden; overflow-y: hidden;">Thirdly, prepare! If it&#8217;s a big deal don&#8217;t expect the customer to cough-up the order without some hefty negotiationing, especially of procurement are involved.</div>
<div id="_mcePaste" style="position: absolute; left: -10000px; top: 330px; width: 1px; height: 1px; overflow-x: hidden; overflow-y: hidden;">As it happened I did get the order, had my moment of glory and big bonus cheque. What I&#8217;d negotiated didn&#8217;t really effect the value of the deal, just the terms&#8230; and my bonus wasn&#8217;t paid on what the terms were. There&#8217;s probably a lesson for companies there as well&#8230; don&#8217;t send out young sales guys to negotiate on their own when they have their b**** on the table and a big bonus at stake!</div>
<div id="attachment_110" class="wp-caption alignright" style="width: 220px"><a href="http://www.freedigitalphotos.net/images/view_photog.php?photogid=851"><img class="size-full wp-image-110 " title="percent2" src="http://reallifeselling.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/percent21.jpg" alt="When the negotiating balls are in the air" width="210" height="203" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">When the negotiating balls are in the air</p></div>
<p>I remember one of my largest ever sales with mixed emotions. The deal, for a mixture of hardware, software and design services, was a whopper and had been in the pipeline for months. Likewise it had been in my forecast for months and all eyes were on me. I went in on my own for the final session to actually get the order and knew there would be some negotiating to be done. However, we were in a very strong position technically and I suspected that, as far as the engineers were concerned, it was a one-horse race.</p>
<p>For a one-horse race I sure got beat up. I was in my mid-twenties and meeting up with Reg, their procurement VP, who must have been around sixty and knew every low-down trick in the book. What I had expected would be a final, quick haggle on price turned into a mammoth session going over the price, technology, deliverables and Ts &amp; Cs with a fine-tooth comb. By the time I left I&#8217;d given away half of the farm, my head was spinning and I still wasn&#8217;t sure if I&#8217;d got the order. It wasn&#8217;t so much a negotiation as a very long, painful series of concessions.</p>
<p>I remember two of his tactics particularly vividly&#8230;</p>
<ul>
<li>The salami technique. He took me through our Ts and Cs line by line with him questioning each one, telling me why they couldn&#8217;t accept it and asking me what we could do about it. So during the course of the meeting I made more than one call back to base to find out if we could move&#8230; and mostly we could.</li>
<li>The power of legitimacy. I&#8217;m sure you&#8217;ve probably heard about this concept&#8230; it&#8217;s the un-thinking respect for standard terms and conditions, operating procedures and in general anything documented. Reg used this to full effect with his terms; they were written in stone&#8230; absolutely couldn&#8217;t be changed&#8230; never in the history of the company had they been modified&#8230; he&#8217;d be fired for even thinking about it. Of course, when it came to <em>our</em> Ts &amp; Cs he had zero (0) respect for them and expected each one to be individually re-drafted for him!</li>
</ul>
<p>So what did I learn from this exercise?</p>
<ol>
<li>Don&#8217;t let them get you &#8220;on a roll&#8221; with the salami technique. If you do have to go over a lot of items just ask what they want on each one to begin with, don&#8217;t comment on any of them and move to the next. Make absolutely sure you have the complete, full list of requests before you comment. Then at least you are in a position to trade e.g. &#8220;I can do something on warranty <em>if</em> you can&#8230;&#8221; I actually wised-up to this half way through the negotiation with Reg, but by that point I was &#8220;on a roll&#8221;.</li>
<li>When someone wants concessions from you make sure that you have the power of legitimacy on <em>your</em> side.</li>
<p>&#8220;The (written) quotation is fixed and firm&#8221;.<br />
&#8220;Our system doesn&#8217;t allow that&#8221;.<br />
&#8220;We put a lot of work into it to make sure it&#8217;s the absolute best deal&#8221;.<br />
&#8220;Maintenance is not negotiable&#8221;. (When I sold software I can&#8217;t recall <em>any</em> customer questioning this!)</p>
<li>When you want concessions from someone else&#8230; don&#8217;t be awed by the power of legitimacy. Feel free to question their standards terms, their company policies&#8230; especially if they are directly at odds with yours. <em>Something</em> has to give.</li>
<li>Prepare! If it&#8217;s a big deal don&#8217;t expect the customer to cough-up the order without some hefty negotiating, especially if procurement are involved.</li>
</ol>
<p>As it happened I <strong>did</strong> get the order, had my moment of glory and big bonus cheque. What I&#8217;d negotiated didn&#8217;t really effect the value of the deal, just the terms&#8230; and my bonus wasn&#8217;t paid on the terms. There&#8217;s probably a lesson for companies there as well&#8230; don&#8217;t send out young sales guys to negotiate on their own when they have their b**** on the table and a big sales bonus at stake!</p>
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